Discussion:
Lot's Wife / Karla (revisted)
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Barbara's Cat
2009-11-07 01:25:55 UTC
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Here's one of my favorite poems by Karla (I'm sure she won't mind me
[ illegal publishing of Karla's poem snipped ]

The proper and legal thing to do would have been
to ask Karla if it would be okay for you to post
her poem BEFORE you posted her poem, imbecile.

Copyright -- it's not just a word.
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
Barbara's Cat
2009-11-07 01:28:37 UTC
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Here's one of my favorite poems by Karla (I'm sure she won't mind me
[ illegal publishing of Karla's poem snipped ]

The proper and legal thing to do would have been
to ask Karla if it would be okay for you to post
her poem BEFORE you posted her poem, imbecile.

Copyright -- it's not just a word.
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
Barbara's Cat
2009-11-07 02:03:00 UTC
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Here's one of my favorite poems by Karla (I'm sure she won't mind me
Post by Barbara's Cat
[ illegal publishing of Karla's poem snipped ]
The proper and legal thing to do would have been
to ask Karla if it would be okay for you to post
her poem BEFORE you posted her poem
If Karla minds, I can delete it.
No, you can't, Goober. Your posting of Karla's poem
now exists in UseNet and you cannot delete it. IOW,
your violation of Karla's copyright is now a matter
of record.

Remember: "Google Groups" is not "UseNet", it's just
an interface to UseNet.

And, idiot, you should not have posted Karla's poem
without her permission in the first place because
(and you claim to be the Know-All-of-Copyright-Law)
posting somebody's poetry without their permission
is a violation of their copyright.
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
Barbara's Cat
2009-11-07 02:00:11 UTC
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Here's one of my favorite poems by Karla (I'm sure she won't mind me
Post by Barbara's Cat
[ illegal publishing of Karla's poem snipped ]
The proper and legal thing to do would have been
to ask Karla if it would be okay for you to post
her poem BEFORE you posted her poem
If Karla minds, I can delete it.
No, you can't, Goober. Your posting of Karla's poem
now exists in UseNet and you cannot delete it. IOW,
your violation of Karla's copyright is now a matter
of record.

Remember: "Google Groups" is not "UseNet", it's just
an interface to UseNet.

And, idiot, you should not have posted Karla's poem
without her permission in the first place because
(and you claim to be the Know-All-of-Copyright-Law)
posting somebody's poetry without their permission
is a violation of their copyright.
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
Barbara's Cat
2009-11-07 02:28:20 UTC
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Post by Barbara's Cat
Here's one of my favorite poems by Karla (I'm sure she won't mind me
Post by Barbara's Cat
[ illegal publishing of Karla's poem snipped ]
The proper and legal thing to do would have been
to ask Karla if it would be okay for you to post
her poem BEFORE you posted her poem
If Karla minds, I can delete it.
No, you can't, Goober. Your posting of Karla's poem
now exists in UseNet and you cannot delete it. IOW,
your violation of Karla's copyright is now a matter
of record.
Remember: "Google Groups" is not "UseNet", it's just
an interface to UseNet.
And, idiot, you should not have posted Karla's poem
without her permission in the first place because
(and you claim to be the Know-All-of-Copyright-Law)
posting somebody's poetry without their permission
is a violation of their copyright.
Q U A C K !
Goober, no amount of your quacking will change the fact
that you violated Karla's copyright.

Posting someone's poetry without their permission, which
you have been habitually doing for years, is a violation
of their copyright. Get a clue, you ignorant moron.

End of discussion.
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
Barbara's Cat
2009-11-07 04:04:19 UTC
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Michael Cook
It's that time of the month again, eh, Goober?

Once a month,
without fail,
you bleed "Michael Cook".
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-07 04:58:21 UTC
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Post by Barbara's Cat
Michael Cook
It's that time of the month again, eh, Goober?
Once a month,
without fail,
you bleed "Michael Cook".
He was pregnant with Dennis Hammes once...and I'm pretty sure he had a Peter
J Ross abortion
Meat Plow
2009-11-07 11:34:03 UTC
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:04:19 -0500, Barbara's Cat
Post by Barbara's Cat
Michael Cook
It's that time of the month again, eh, Goober?
Once a month,
without fail,
you bleed "Michael Cook".
He's 'Manstruating' again.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-07 02:03:37 UTC
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Post by Barbara's Cat
Here's one of my favorite poems by Karla (I'm sure she won't mind me
[ illegal publishing of Karla's poem snipped ]
The proper and legal thing to do would have been
to ask Karla if it would be okay for you to post
her poem BEFORE you posted her poem, imbecile.
Copyright -- it's not just a word.
Duckery doesn't understand any word greater than two syllables.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-07 02:19:51 UTC
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Trick of Light
Tonight, under the bursting moon
I wrote this poem about waltzing with you
how I felt like Meryl Streep in your arms
surrounded by japanese lanterns
the scent of jasmine rising around us from
little yellow-white heads crushed under our heels
and in the heat of writing it
I hear your voice again, liking me
or a Meryl me
because just like the songs
moonlight does that
and I'm remembering
champagne glittering
how we danced till the music stopped
the violins packed away, napkins folded
and I was Meryl Streep under a bursting moon
a trick of light
your love.
Karla
rev. 6/09
--
"Red Lipped Stranger & other stories" by Will
Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
I like that poem it just is not going on the page, my show is on I'll
be back Will. Eva
Sure... I see that "Ghost Whisperer" has been on the air for quite a
while... here's the Wiki article you might enjoy reading, not sure if
you've seen it:


= snip =

Wikipedia is a joke, Will. It's no surprise you take the site as fact.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-07 02:56:54 UTC
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Post by Orson Wells as CitizenCain
Trick of Light
Tonight, under the bursting moon
I wrote this poem about waltzing with you
how I felt like Meryl Streep in your arms
surrounded by japanese lanterns
the scent of jasmine rising around us from
little yellow-white heads crushed under our heels
and in the heat of writing it
I hear your voice again, liking me
or a Meryl me
because just like the songs
moonlight does that
and I'm remembering
champagne glittering
how we danced till the music stopped
the violins packed away, napkins folded
and I was Meryl Streep under a bursting moon
a trick of light
your love.
Karla
rev. 6/09
I like that poem it just is not going on the page, my show is on I'll
be back Will. Eva
Sure... I see that "Ghost Whisperer" has been on the air for quite a
while... here's the Wiki article you might enjoy reading, not sure if
= snip =
Wikipedia is a joke, Will.
A lot like
A lot like you and your entire life?
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-07 07:27:41 UTC
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Lot's Wife
Her mistake was literally
looking back at the holocaust of hearth.
The blood rushed from her
in the horrific centrifuge
spinning down minerals
into a block of salt.
We know no other name for her -
a possession in a land of sin,
a pillar in a has-been community,
our cautionary parable.
Recent excavations unearth tablets
of this tale and others
but of the running woman
stopped a few meters from inhospitality
nothing.
Who'd want to know
grass refused to grow
at her feet and
dappled deer returning
to parched earth
tongued her new essence
unto death?
Karla
rev. 5/24/09
Hi Will, that stupid guy is on so write me on here if you want. Eva
It's pretty quiet here right now, Eva, as it usually is. You just came
in at a wild time, with spammers like Orson running around,


I don't spam, unlike your rumpled butt buddy Chuckles.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-10 04:35:26 UTC
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Post by Orson Wells as CitizenCain
Lot's Wife
Her mistake was literally
looking back at the holocaust of hearth.
The blood rushed from her
in the horrific centrifuge
spinning down minerals
into a block of salt.
We know no other name for her -
a possession in a land of sin,
a pillar in a has-been community,
our cautionary parable.
Recent excavations unearth tablets
of this tale and others
but of the running woman
stopped a few meters from inhospitality
nothing.
Who'd want to know
grass refused to grow
at her feet and
dappled deer returning
to parched earth
tongued her new essence
unto death?
Karla
rev. 5/24/09
Hi Will, that stupid guy is on so write me on here if you want. Eva
It's pretty quiet here right now, Eva, as it usually is. You just came
in at a wild time, with spammers like Orson running around,
spamming and repeated lies
Your admission is noted,
Your horribly blatant and douchebaggery behavior in regards to cut and
pasting and post-editing is noted, Douchery.
But if you want to continue to support your little spamming lover, who am I
to stand in the way of true love?
===


Their not having a life


And Chuck's spamming and repeated lies means he's doing WHAT exactly,
Duckery?

===
Barbara's Cat
2009-11-07 13:50:41 UTC
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Here's one of my favorite poems by Karla (I'm sure she won't mind me
But isn't it a violation of her copyright to publish her work
But isn't it a violation of her copyright to publish her work without
her prior permission? And you can't 'delete' it from Usenet. So I
guess after all these years of screaming 'copyright violator' you have
just become one yourself.
<snip>
I didn't really publish the work,
Yes, Goober, you did. And thoughtful Meat Plow
snipped Karla's work before posting his reply.
I just reposted it here from the archives.
And you did so without Karla's permission.

Maybe Karla does not want her property reposted.
You should have asked Karla if it would be okay
for you to repost her property instead of just
blatantly violating her copyright by reposting
her property like you've been habitually doing
with many other people's property for years.
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery,
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
Barbara's Cat
2009-11-07 15:14:16 UTC
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Q U A C K !
Goober, your QUACKER is stuck in an endless loop of quacking.
You should have it fixed before it embarrasses you even more.
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-10 04:40:13 UTC
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Post by Barbara's Cat
blatantly violating her copyright by reposting
her property
Well, there's a fair use basis for doing it,


No, there is not.
Karla
2009-11-07 20:48:11 UTC
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Post by Barbara's Cat
Here's one of my favorite poems by Karla (I'm sure she won't mind me
[ illegal publishing of Karla's poem snipped ]
The proper and legal thing to do would have been
to ask Karla if it would be okay for you to post
her poem BEFORE you posted her poem, imbecile.
Copyright -- it's not just a word.
Years ago, it used to be okay to re-post a poem for discussion in the same
group where it was originally posted. I was an instigator of that myself
back when I would try to have some fun with National Poetry Month. I'd make
a post asking folks to post their favorite poem by another contributor of
the group, urging proper attribution, of course. I think many of us thought
of r.a.p. or a.a.p.c. as a kind of a writers' group where our work was in
progress, and our posting of it here was not publishing it, per se. That
doesn't change much with respect to copyright. I don't know if it's been
ruled on one way or another, that is, are poems, stories, flash fiction,
etc. posted to Usenet "published"? I got different answers to that
questions from the legal beagles. Do you know? What do you base your post
on?

Of course, the law and courteous behavior are two different things. It
would have been nice to have been asked before the fact. And along that
line, I continue to object to and dislike the posting of my poems to groups
I didn't originally post to, such as alt.poetry and alt.arts.poetry. I
dislike that people cross-post posts from r.a.p. to a.a.p.c. when the
original poster didn't post it there. If I wanted to participate in that
group, I would do so. But what's the use! I'm a broken record on that
score.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-09 05:36:50 UTC
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Will, if he doesn't shut up about my name i will put a hex on him
eva
He already seems pretty hexed already... heh.
--
"Red Lipped Stranger & other stories" by Will
Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
yes he does seem pretty well in need of nursing home. eva
Heh... he's obsessed with "Will Dockery",
No one is obsessed with Will Dockery.
Yet y[SMACK]
No one is obsessed with Will Dockery.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-10 04:39:15 UTC
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Here's one of my favorite poems by Karla (I'm sure she won't mind me
But isn't it a violation of her copyright to publish her work
I didn't really publish the work, I just reposted it here from the
archives.


Flimsy, incorrect excuse is noted, Duckery. You thief.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-10 04:42:29 UTC
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You published it to Usenet.
No, I just reposted it to Usenet... it was already here.
Damn, Meat gives you a perfect example, a solid argument and all you can do
is say "That's not true?"


You're a spineless sack of shit, Dockery, but most knew that already...

news:alt.idiot.will-dockery
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2009-11-10 04:55:00 UTC
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You published it to Usenet.
No, I just reposted it to Usenet... it was already here.
--
"Waking Up Now" by Will Dockery

HI HE JUST REPOSTED IT.
Yes, I could have just hit "reply" and it would have posted, but I
moved it over here, actually so I'd be more sure that you'd see it,
Eva.
We have our ups and downs, but Karla really is one of the finest poets
of the group, and "Trick of Light" in particular is a fine one. In
fact, if you're here for a while, I'll reply to it in the original ToL
last Summer.
Why make a big deal out of it? Eva
No reason, I guess...
Except, of course, for the fact that Duckery has constantly quacked and
complained about copyright violation, and now has gone and done the same
thing he's been quacking and complaining about, and when called out on his
bullshit has tried to spin his actions as something not hypocritical or
ignorant and being completely innocent in the matter.

One words summary: Douchebag.
Barbara's Cat
2009-11-10 11:47:48 UTC
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Do you really think that quoting your posts, without your permission,
is a violation of your copyright?
Heh... you sure shut them up fast that time, George.
NH.
There just wasn't any reason to respond to
the goober's ridiculously stupid question.
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
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