[Quack] Re: Michael Cook: his plagiarism and poetry theft

[Meat Plow]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:57:37 -0500, Will Quackery quacked:

> Gerard Ian Lewis wrote
>>"Will Dockery" wrote
>>
>> /The Plagiarist/
>>
>> ''Who the hell is Michael Cook? Someone on this group tried to plagiarise
>> Dockery? '' -Gerard Ian Lewis
>>
>> Michael D Cook is a copyright thief who stole my poem ''Karma Bombs''
> (among
>> many other thefts) and made a recording of it, which he placed on his
>> website
>> without credit to me... which made his theft plagiarism, trying to pass
> the
>> work off as his own. After this, Cook was driven from these newsgroups in
>> embarrassment.
>>
>> By Rik Roots' definition it was plagiarism... I can give you the quote, if
>> you want it, or don't remember it.
>>
>> Here's the basics on the theft/copyright abuse/plagiarism of my poem
> "Karma
>> Bombs'':
>>
>> ----
>> How do you feel about photographs of poets used without permission
> (stolen),
>> pasted on likewise stolen porno images, then used on websites hosted by
> the
>> "creator" of these works for months, then hosted by PJR himself for
> months,
>> perhaps even now somewhere? How do you feel about someone taking a
> complete
>> poem, recording it, then posting the Mp3 on his website, without any
> credit
>> to the poet who created it? PJR applauded and defended both of these acts
>> of copyright infringement/theft.
>>
>> Very /active support/. Here's some of the details on the theft of my
> "Karma
>> Bombs" poem, in
>> exchange with the thief Michael Cook, where he denies "stealing" and
>> posting one of my poems, "Karma Bombs":
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/KarmaBombsByWillDockery
>>
>> ... he wrote that he only "borrowed" it..:
>>
>> ----
>> From: Will Dockery
>> Subject: "Karma Bombs" by Will Dockery [Mp3]
>> Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.pagan, rec.arts.poems
>> Date: 2003-12-22 14:36:49 PST
>> From "Karma Bombs. by Will Dockery" read by Michael Cook:
>> http://www.net-kooks.no-ip.info/images/Karma%20Bombs.mp3
>>
>> > Message 2 in thread
>> > From: Michael Cook (***@ameritech.net)
>> > Subject: Re: "Karma Bombs" by Will Dockery [Mp3]
>> > Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.pagan, rec.arts.poems
>> > Date: 2003-12-22 15:24:03 PST
>> > "Will Dockery" wrote
>> > > From "Karma Bombs. by Will Dockery" read by Michael Cook:
>> > >http://www.net-kooks.no-ip.info/images/Karma%20Bombs.mp3
>> > You hapless dullard!
>> > One, you are stealing my bandwidth.
>> > I'd rather you just took the recording
>> > and post it to your own server.
>> > (i only have 368 up)
>> > Two, the voice is computer generated
>> > mdc
>>
>> > Message 3 in thread
>> > From: Will Dockery (***@knology.net)
>> > Subject: Re: "Karma Bombs" by Will Dockery [Mp3]
>> > Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.pagan, rec.arts.poems
>> > Date: 2003-12-22 15:37:31 PST
>> > "Michael Cook" wrote
>> > > > From "Karma Bombs. by Will Dockery" read by Michael Cook:
>> > > >http://www.net-kooks.no-ip.info/images/Karma%20Bombs.mp3
>> > > You hapless dullard!
>> > > One, you are stealing my bandwidth.
>> > Hey! You "stole" my copyrighted poem! I prefer to think of it as a
>> "cover",
>> > and on my Lulu.com release, you get full credit.
>> > > I'd rather you just took the recording
>> > > and post it to your own server.
>> > > (i only have 368 up)
>> > This has been done, more-or-less. What music do *you* envision for the
>> poem?
>> > We'll create our own, similar to the one already performed, but I'm
>> curious
>> > about what you'd come up with:
>> > http://www.lulu.com/content/32109
>> > > Two, the voice is computer generated
>> > > mdc
>> > I knew that, of course, but I think it's kind of fun to go into the
>> > Google archives with *another* "Collaboration with Michael Cook... by
> the
>> > way, when will you be putting the "Oz" photo-story back up, at least
> long
>> > enough for me to copy/paste it to a more permanent site?
>> > Will
>>
>> > Message 4 in thread
>> > From: Michael Cook (***@ameritech.net)
>> > Subject: Re: "Karma Bombs" by Will Dockery [Mp3]
>> > Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.pagan, rec.arts.poems
>> > Date: 2003-12-22 16:00:54 PST
>> > "Will Dockery" wrote in message
>> > > Hey! You "stole" my copyrighted poem! I prefer to think of it as a
>> > "cover",
>> > > and on my Lulu.com release, you get full credit.
>> > As the recording clearly demonstrates, a poem I did not steal, only
>> borrowed
>> --
>>
>> This was years ago, clearly showing Michael Cook has a habit of
> "borrowing"
>> [translation: stealing] copyrighted poetry, images and other works created
>> by other hands, to call his own, elsewhere in the archives there are
>> countless moments of PJR applauding Cook for his thefts, copyright
>> infringements and plagiarisms, meanwhile making such hypocritical
> statements
>> as this one, when his agenda calls for it:
>>
>> "Don't imagine that this is some kind of trivial Usenet flame war in
> which
>> the people who are against "us" can reasonably side with [the thief]
> because
>> he's also against "us". Net-abuse of this kind affects *all* of us,
>> whichever "side" we're usually on, and the abuser needs to be ostracised
>> whether he says flattering things about you or not."
>> -Peter J. Ross on copyright theft/net abuse.
>>
>> Comments are welcome.
>>
>>Vf gurer fbzr fcrpvny ernfba sbe abg zragvbavat gung ur unf npghnyyl /
> nqzvggrq/ gb orvat n cyntvnevfg?
>
> That quack quack quack and quack Gerard... since quack quack quacks to
> flood the quack and quack the quack, a quack you may quack quack
> quack yoursekf, quack.

That's a lot of quacking there Quackery.

[Barbara's Cat]

Goober Duck Will "Thanks, Cook!" Dockery quacked:

> Michael D Cook
> Michael Cook
> Michael Cook
> Michael Cook

> This was years ago


I'm sure Mr Cook realized long ago
you would never pay him the $50.00
you owe him, so there really is no
need for you to continue quacking
crybaby fabrications of plagiarism
and theft to get out of paying him.


--
Cm~

"Added music would be great, Michael!"
- Will Dockery begging Michael Cook
to help make his crap less crappy

[Barbara's Cat]

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--
Cm~

"Nothing you add is ever appropriate."
- Rob enlightens Duckery

[Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain]

"msifg" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain" <***@here.invalidd> wrote in message
> news:742ba$498e52ee$a666681e$***@ALLTEL.NET...
>>
>> "Will Dockery" <will-dockery-***@knology.net> wrote in message
>> news:8e10d$498d557a$4b4c71e9$***@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>> "msifg" wrote:
>>>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> "George Dance" wrote:
>>>>>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> >> > >> Honeytrip Sestina
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > >> Beads of sweat driving on 280,
>>>> >> >> > >> thinking about a lonesome wildflower.
>>>> >> >> > >> Cross country for this honeytrip,
>>>> >> >> > >> going down to incant a shadowmusic,
>>>> >> >> > >> joined on stage by her fiddle,
>>>> >> >> > >> swear to god I really miss her.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > >> She knows that I've missed her,
>>>> >> >> > >> she drives alone on highway 280.
>>>> >> >> > >> Her grandfather also played fiddle,
>>>> >> >> > >> and grew gov'ment wildflowers.
>>>> >> >> > >> Let him play his shadowmusic,
>>>> >> >> > >> as we recall the honeytrip.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > >> Backpacked, hitchhiked to honeytrip,
>>>> >> >> > >> waterfall spray did mist her,
>>>> >> >> > >> we formed a band to play shadowmusic.
>>>> >> >> > >> Down in Salem, on Highway 280,
>>>> >> >> > >> saw the sign of Project Wildflower,
>>>> >> >> > >> a contra agent but plays good fiddle.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > >> In the night sirens played fiddle,
>>>> >> >> > >> rustling wail of honey trip.
>>>> >> >> > >> Behind her ear was a wildflower,
>>>> >> >> > >> I knew some day I would miss her.
>>>> >> >> > >> Looking for tea olive on 280,
>>>> >> >> > >> to play a few hours of shadowmusic.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > >> Down a moonlit mile wild shadowmusic,
>>>> >> >> > >> Bibb Mill burned as he played fiddle.
>>>> >> >> > >> Westbound down Highway 280,
>>>> >> >> > >> like a hound for the honeytrip,
>>>> >> >> > >> after all her lies I still missed her,
>>>> >> >> > >> blowing kises from a field of wildflowers.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > >> Sang a melody like "Wildwood Flower",
>>>> >> >> > >> she made it her own kind of shadowmusic.
>>>> >> >> > >> When he stepped on stage we called him mister,
>>>> >> >> > >> ghost of Sgt. Fury playing show fiddle.
>>>> >> >> > >> The only crown prince of honey trip,
>>>> >> >> > >> people parked and walked from 280.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > >> Smell the wildflowers, surrounded by shadowmusic,
>>>> >> >> > >> I miss her and her grandfather's fiddle.
>>>> >> >> > >> Lonesome old honeytrip, in a hollow off 280.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > >> -Will Dockery
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > > I missed this one earlier. It's got some interesting
>>>> >> >> > > language,
>>>> >> >> > > including the endwords "shadowmusic" and "280". I'm looking
>>> forward to hearing it.
>>>>
>>>> > <snip for brevity>
>>>>
>>>> >> and, isn't it a treat that b's cat
>>>> >> is "occupied?"
>>>> >>
>>>> >> vulture face still wants to play.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> i'd say it's a good day on usenet.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> haha
>>>> >
>>>> > Not to mention the "Orsen Wells" clone, now called "God Built"...
>>>>
>>>> haha-
>>>> yeah...
>>>> jr sherman.
>>>> that name goes back a few years.
>>>> i did some usenetting and noticed you two
>>>> have a "history."
>>>> he's one of those that likes to
>>>> use the "you can't write," or
>>>> "you're not a poet," or "you're
>>>> illiterate" attacks on his
>>>> opponents.
>>>> i swear, those are soooo old.
>>>> and, they're so obviously false,
>>>> accusatory attacks that they render
>>>> the attacker untrustworthy off the bat.
>>>>
>>>> an illiterate person usually can't type.
>>>> also, one would be able to spot their
>>>> obvious learning disability very quickly.
>>>> NOBODY around here is illiterate.
>>>> (hint: having occasional errors in syntax
>>>> does NOT count as illiterate.)
>>>>
>>>> so, it's baseless attack and it's so
>>>> very boring and old.
>>>>
>>>> yet, it's still used by the darkside.
>>>
>>> As usual, they don't bother to try and have their insults make sense, as
>>> old
>>> Uncle Hammy would say.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I miss the old guy, now he had a flair for the over-the-top insult
>>> that these young pretenders don't have a clue with.
>>>
>>
>> There once was a pizza boy from Columbus
>> Who constantly tried to impress us
>> But it was no surprise
>> That they were all lies
>> And now he tries to confuse us.
>>
>>
>> EAT SHIT AND DIE,WILL.
>>
>
> actually-
> thanks for sharing.
> discard the "eat shit..." part,


HELL no. Duckery eats shit for breakfast.



> and we may be on to something.


Duckery's insane notion that he's a poet and an artist? Mayhaps.



>
> limericks are good training.


You are good for nothing. Fuck you.

[Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain]

"msifg" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain" <***@here.invalidd> wrote in message
> news:b52fe$498e5345$a666681e$***@ALLTEL.NET...
>>
>> "msifg" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:V5djl.429$%***@newsfe14.iad...
>>>
>>> "Will Dockery" <will-dockery-***@knology.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8e10d$498d557a$4b4c71e9$***@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>>
>>>> "msifg" wrote:
>>>>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>> "George Dance" wrote:
>>>>>>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >> >> > >> Honeytrip Sestina
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > >> Beads of sweat driving on 280,
>>>>> >> >> > >> thinking about a lonesome wildflower.
>>>>> >> >> > >> Cross country for this honeytrip,
>>>>> >> >> > >> going down to incant a shadowmusic,
>>>>> >> >> > >> joined on stage by her fiddle,
>>>>> >> >> > >> swear to god I really miss her.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > >> She knows that I've missed her,
>>>>> >> >> > >> she drives alone on highway 280.
>>>>> >> >> > >> Her grandfather also played fiddle,
>>>>> >> >> > >> and grew gov'ment wildflowers.
>>>>> >> >> > >> Let him play his shadowmusic,
>>>>> >> >> > >> as we recall the honeytrip.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > >> Backpacked, hitchhiked to honeytrip,
>>>>> >> >> > >> waterfall spray did mist her,
>>>>> >> >> > >> we formed a band to play shadowmusic.
>>>>> >> >> > >> Down in Salem, on Highway 280,
>>>>> >> >> > >> saw the sign of Project Wildflower,
>>>>> >> >> > >> a contra agent but plays good fiddle.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > >> In the night sirens played fiddle,
>>>>> >> >> > >> rustling wail of honey trip.
>>>>> >> >> > >> Behind her ear was a wildflower,
>>>>> >> >> > >> I knew some day I would miss her.
>>>>> >> >> > >> Looking for tea olive on 280,
>>>>> >> >> > >> to play a few hours of shadowmusic.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > >> Down a moonlit mile wild shadowmusic,
>>>>> >> >> > >> Bibb Mill burned as he played fiddle.
>>>>> >> >> > >> Westbound down Highway 280,
>>>>> >> >> > >> like a hound for the honeytrip,
>>>>> >> >> > >> after all her lies I still missed her,
>>>>> >> >> > >> blowing kises from a field of wildflowers.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > >> Sang a melody like "Wildwood Flower",
>>>>> >> >> > >> she made it her own kind of shadowmusic.
>>>>> >> >> > >> When he stepped on stage we called him mister,
>>>>> >> >> > >> ghost of Sgt. Fury playing show fiddle.
>>>>> >> >> > >> The only crown prince of honey trip,
>>>>> >> >> > >> people parked and walked from 280.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > >> Smell the wildflowers, surrounded by shadowmusic,
>>>>> >> >> > >> I miss her and her grandfather's fiddle.
>>>>> >> >> > >> Lonesome old honeytrip, in a hollow off 280.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > >> -Will Dockery
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > > I missed this one earlier. It's got some interesting
>>>>> >> >> > > language,
>>>>> >> >> > > including the endwords "shadowmusic" and "280". I'm looking
>>>> forward to hearing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> > <snip for brevity>
>>>>>
>>>>> >> and, isn't it a treat that b's cat
>>>>> >> is "occupied?"
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> vulture face still wants to play.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> i'd say it's a good day on usenet.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> haha
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Not to mention the "Orsen Wells" clone, now called "God Built"...
>>>>>
>>>>> haha-
>>>>> yeah...
>>>>> jr sherman.
>>>>> that name goes back a few years.
>>>>> i did some usenetting and noticed you two
>>>>> have a "history."
>>>>> he's one of those that likes to
>>>>> use the "you can't write," or
>>>>> "you're not a poet," or "you're
>>>>> illiterate" attacks on his
>>>>> opponents.
>>>>> i swear, those are soooo old.
>>>>> and, they're so obviously false,
>>>>> accusatory attacks that they render
>>>>> the attacker untrustworthy off the bat.
>>>>>
>>>>> an illiterate person usually can't type.
>>>>> also, one would be able to spot their
>>>>> obvious learning disability very quickly.
>>>>> NOBODY around here is illiterate.
>>>>> (hint: having occasional errors in syntax
>>>>> does NOT count as illiterate.)
>>>>>
>>>>> so, it's baseless attack and it's so
>>>>> very boring and old.
>>>>>
>>>>> yet, it's still used by the darkside.
>>>>
>>>> As usual, they don't bother to try and have their insults make sense,
>>>> as old
>>>> Uncle Hammy would say.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I miss the old guy, now he had a flair for the over-the-top
>>>> insult
>>>> that these young pretenders don't have a clue with.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "Twilight Girl" and other poetry & music from Will Dockery:
>>>> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> i agree-
>>> it wasn't crude and rude thuggery while i was around.
>>> you conveyed to me, or us, a few times that he did
>>> indulge in physical threats here and there. however,
>>> i never saw it on my watch.
>>>
>>> the homophobic stuff was so funny-
>>> esp since his other usenet handle was amandareid.
>>> now, even though amandareid is an obvious
>>> word play, it still left him wide open for all
>>> kinds of transsexual banter.
>>>
>>> those were some good times. i miss the old guy.
>>> classic usenet.
>>>
>>> i wish you would post more usenet links to some pertinent
>>> hammes material. if you can remember some of the
>>> classic battles or moments with him going back to
>>> anytime, i, for one, would like to see. there's
>>> so much hammes and dockery, i can't even begin
>>> to search.
>>>
>>> just a suggestion.
>>
>>
>> Here's a suggestion: Shut the hell up.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> not very good.
>
> try a little harder.



Here's another suggestion:


FUCK OFF AND DIE

[Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain]

"Will Dockery" <***@knology.net> wrote in message
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>
> "msifg" wrote:
>> "Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain" wrote:
>>>"msifg" wrote:
>>>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> "George Dance" wrote:
>>>>>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>>
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Honeytrip Sestina
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Beads of sweat driving on 280,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> thinking about a lonesome wildflower.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Cross country for this honeytrip,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> going down to incant a shadowmusic,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> joined on stage by her fiddle,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> swear to god I really miss her.
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > >> She knows that I've missed her,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> she drives alone on highway 280.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Her grandfather also played fiddle,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> and grew gov'ment wildflowers.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Let him play his shadowmusic,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> as we recall the honeytrip.
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Backpacked, hitchhiked to honeytrip,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> waterfall spray did mist her,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> we formed a band to play shadowmusic.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Down in Salem, on Highway 280,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> saw the sign of Project Wildflower,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> a contra agent but plays good fiddle.
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > >> In the night sirens played fiddle,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> rustling wail of honey trip.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Behind her ear was a wildflower,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> I knew some day I would miss her.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Looking for tea olive on 280,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> to play a few hours of shadowmusic.
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Down a moonlit mile wild shadowmusic,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Bibb Mill burned as he played fiddle.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Westbound down Highway 280,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> like a hound for the honeytrip,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> after all her lies I still missed her,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> blowing kises from a field of wildflowers.
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Sang a melody like "Wildwood Flower",
>> >>>> >> >> > >> she made it her own kind of shadowmusic.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> When he stepped on stage we called him mister,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> ghost of Sgt. Fury playing show fiddle.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> The only crown prince of honey trip,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> people parked and walked from 280.
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Smell the wildflowers, surrounded by shadowmusic,
>> >>>> >> >> > >> I miss her and her grandfather's fiddle.
>> >>>> >> >> > >> Lonesome old honeytrip, in a hollow off 280.
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > >> -Will Dockery
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > > I missed this one earlier. It's got some interesting
>> >>>> >> >> > > language,
>> >>>> >> >> > > including the endwords "shadowmusic" and "280". I'm
>> >>>> >> >> > > looking
>> >>> forward to hearing it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > <snip for brevity>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >> and, isn't it a treat that b's cat
>> >>>> >> is "occupied?"
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> vulture face still wants to play.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> i'd say it's a good day on usenet.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> haha
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Not to mention the "Orsen Wells" clone, now called "God Built"...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> haha-
>> >>>> yeah...
>> >>>> jr sherman.
>> >>>> that name goes back a few years.
>> >>>> i did some usenetting and noticed you two
>> >>>> have a "history."
>> >>>> he's one of those that likes to
>> >>>> use the "you can't write," or
>> >>>> "you're not a poet," or "you're
>> >>>> illiterate" attacks on his
>> >>>> opponents.
>> >>>> i swear, those are soooo old.
>> >>>> and, they're so obviously false,
>> >>>> accusatory attacks that they render
>> >>>> the attacker untrustworthy off the bat.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> an illiterate person usually can't type.
>> >>>> also, one would be able to spot their
>> >>>> obvious learning disability very quickly.
>> >>>> NOBODY around here is illiterate.
>> >>>> (hint: having occasional errors in syntax
>> >>>> does NOT count as illiterate.)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> so, it's baseless attack and it's so
>> >>>> very boring and old.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> yet, it's still used by the darkside.
>> >>>
>> >>> As usual, they don't bother to try and have their insults make sense,
> as
>> >>> old
>> >>> Uncle Hammy would say.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yeah, I miss the old guy, now he had a flair for the over-the-top
> insult
>> >>> that these young pretenders don't have a clue with.
>> >>
>> >> i agree-
>> >> it wasn't crude and rude thuggery while i was around.
>> >> you conveyed to me, or us, a few times that he did
>> >> indulge in physical threats here and there. however,
>> >> i never saw it on my watch.
>> >>
>> >> the homophobic stuff was so funny-
>> >> esp since his other usenet handle was amandareid.
>> >> now, even though amandareid is an obvious
>> >> word play, it still left him wide open for all
>> >> kinds of transsexual banter.
>> >>
>> >> those were some good times. i miss the old guy.
>> >> classic usenet.
>> >>
>> >> i wish you would post more usenet links to some pertinent
>> >> hammes material. if you can remember some of the
>> >> classic battles or moments with him going back to
>> >> anytime, i, for one, would like to see. there's
>> >> so much hammes and dockery, i can't even begin
>> >> to search.
>> >>
>> >> just a suggestion.
>> >
>> > Here's a suggestion: Shut the hell up.
>
> God Built's little brother...
>
>> not very good.
>>
>> try a little harder.
>>
>> try this:
>>
>> this Shit claims that it's legit
>> by defending a poor duck.
>> but really, it's a smelly mess
>> that tries to quack a fuck.
>> if it could imitate its teaching source
>> in any useful way,
>> it would shut the fuck up
>> rather than waste this day.
>>
>> or, something like that.
>>
>> anyway... was better than yours.
>>
>> i guarantee it!
>
> Now if he can write a couple thousand of those in a month he'd be fit to
> tie
> Hammes' shoelaces...


you aren't fit to barf on Hammes' shoes, Duckery. Take your stupid quackings
and go elsewhere, say, the tar pits.

[Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain]

"Will Dockery" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:063286b3-2031-474b-84e7-***@x10g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> "msifg" wrote:
>> "Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain" wrote:
>>> "msifg" wrote:
>>>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> "George Dance" wrote:
>>>>>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Honeytrip Sestina
>>
>>>>>>> Beads of sweat driving on 280,
>>>>>>> thinking about a lonesome wildflower.
>>>>>>> Cross country for this honeytrip,
>>>>>>> going down to incant a shadowmusic,
>>>>>>> joined on stage by her fiddle,
>>>>>>> swear to god I really miss her.
>>
>>>>>>> She knows that I've missed her,
>>>>>>> she drives alone on highway 280.
>>>>>>> Her grandfather also played fiddle,
>>>>>>> and grew gov'ment wildflowers.
>>>>>>> Let him play his shadowmusic,
>>>>>>> as we recall the honeytrip.
>>
>>>>>>> Backpacked, hitchhiked to honeytrip,
>>>>>>> waterfall spray did mist her,
>>>>>>> we formed a band to play shadowmusic.
>>>>>>> Down in Salem, on Highway 280,
>>>>>>> saw the sign of Project Wildflower,
>>>>>>> a contra agent but plays good fiddle.
>>
>>>>>>> In the night sirens played fiddle,
>>>>>>> rustling wail of honey trip.
>>>>>>> Behind her ear was a wildflower,
>>>>>>> I knew some day I would miss her.
>>>>>>> Looking for tea olive on 280,
>>>>>>> to play a few hours of shadowmusic.
>>
>>>>>>> Down a moonlit mile wild shadowmusic,
>>>>>>> Bibb Mill burned as he played fiddle.
>>>>>>> Westbound down Highway 280,
>>>>>>> like a hound for the honeytrip,
>>>>>>> after all her lies I still missed her,
>>>>>>> blowing kises from a field of wildflowers.
>>
>>>>>>> Sang a melody like "Wildwood Flower",
>>>>>>> she made it her own kind of shadowmusic.
>>>>>>> When he stepped on stage we called him mister,
>>>>>>> ghost of Sgt. Fury playing show fiddle.
>>>>>>> The only crown prince of honey trip,
>>>>>>> people parked and walked from 280.
>>
>>>>>>> Smell the wildflowers, surrounded by shadowmusic,
>>>>>>> I miss her and her grandfather's fiddle.
>>>>>>> Lonesome old honeytrip, in a hollow off 280.
>>
>>>>>>> -Will Dockery
>>
>>>>>> I missed this one earlier. It's got some interesting language,
>>>>>> including the endwords "shadowmusic" and "280". I'm looking forward
>>>>>> to hearing it.
>
> <snip for brevity>
>
>>>>> and, isn't it a treat that b's cat is "occupied?"
>>
>>>>> vulture face still wants to play.
>>
>>>>> i'd say it's a good day on usenet.
>>
>>>>> haha
>>
>>>> Not to mention the "Orsen Wells" clone, now called "God Built":
>>
>> > There once was a pizza boy from Columbus
>> > Who constantly tried to impress us
>> > But it was no surprise
>> > That they were all lies
>> > And now he tries to confuse us.
>>
>> > EAT SHIT AND DIE,WILL.
>>
>> actually-
>> thanks for sharing.
>> discard the "eat shit..." part,
>> and we may be on to something.
>>
>> limericks are good training.
>>
>> keep it up, wells.
>
> PJR will not doubt declare him "bloody brilliant" already... heh.


Duckery will no doubt post edit and say "something stupid"....heh.

[Orson Wells as CitizenCain]

"Will Dockery" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:74059a25-d783-4b2f-ab9d-***@w34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 17, 11:07 pm, Dale Houstman wrote:
> Orson Wells as CitizenCain wrote:
> > "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
>>>>> Honeytrip Sestina
>
> >>>>> Beads of sweat driving on 280,
> >>>>> thinking about a lonesome wildflower.
> >>>>> Cross country for this honeytrip,
> >>>>> going down to incant a shadowmusic,
> >>>>> joined on stage by her fiddle,
> >>>>> swear to god I really miss her.
>
> >>>>> She knows that I've missed her,
> >>>>> she drives alone on highway 280.
> >>>>> Her grandfather also played fiddle,
> >>>>> and grew gov'ment wildflowers.
> >>>>> Let him play his shadowmusic,
> >>>>> as we recall the honeytrip.
>
> >>>>> Backpacked, hitchhiked to honeytrip,
> >>>>> waterfall spray did mist her,
> >>>>> we formed a band to play shadowmusic.
> >>>>> Down in Salem, on Highway 280,
> >>>>> saw the sign of Project Wildflower,
> >>>>> a contra agent but plays good fiddle.
>
> >>>>> In the night sirens played fiddle,
> >>>>> rustling wail of honey trip.
> >>>>> Behind her ear was a wildflower,
> >>>>> I knew some day I would miss her.
> >>>>> Looking for tea olive on 280,
> >>>>> to play a few hours of shadowmusic.
>
> >>>>> Down a moonlit mile wild shadowmusic,
> >>>>> Bibb Mill burned as he played fiddle.
> >>>>> Westbound down Highway 280,
> >>>>> like a hound for the honeytrip,
> >>>>> after all her lies I still missed her,
> >>>>> blowing kises from a field of wildflowers.
>
> >>>>> Sang a melody like "Wildwood Flower",
> >>>>> she made it her own kind of shadowmusic.
> >>>>> When he stepped on stage we called him mister,
> >>>>> ghost of Sgt. Fury playing show fiddle.
> >>>>> The only crown prince of honey trip,
> >>>>> people parked and walked from 280.
>
> >>>>> Smell the wildflowers, surrounded by shadowmusic,
> >>>>> I miss her and her grandfather's fiddle.
> >>>>> Lonesome old honeytrip, in a hollow off 280.
>
> >>>>> -Will Dockery
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> "Twilight Girl" and other new poetry & music from Will
> >>>>> Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>
>>>> I missed this one earlier. It's got some interesting language,
> >>>> including the endwords "shadowmusic" and "280". I'm looking forward
> >>>> to
> >>>> hearing it.
> >>> a useless Rolling Stones cop
>
>> Okay, I went back here because I remembered this to be one of the many
> >> points you've accused several poets of "thievery", Dale... and see I
> >> was mistaken, you never actually called me a thief,
>
> > doesn't mean you aren't one.
>
> Actually - there's no doubt - he IS one. Him and his slightly less
> incompetent editor had to apologize for not only using my work without
> my permission

Well, I had your permission, which you gave me at least twice, to use
your poem "Her Lark Colony" in a music adaptation and the few excerpts
I used without your permission




So you admit it. Enjoy the lawsuit, you dumbass twit.




were being used to promote that... I
had no idea that you'd allow me to use your poem but would object to a
few quotes taken from Usenet, which I credited to your name, as well.
So sure, as soon as you complained I apologized, and in fact cancelled
the plan to use the poem you given me permission to use, as well.

While you're here, though, why not point out the place where you
imagine I "copped" from the Rolling Stones in the sestina? You never
got around to answering that.

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